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Started 3 years ago by motionsmith
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motionsmith
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I'm gonna call game over before the coin is even flipped. AS3 FTW.

* Faster
* Event Model
* More namespaces (protected and internal, and private is actually private).
* Packaging
* Better structured (can you say addChild()?)
* lighter Sprite class
* Awesome XML parsing
* Better error-handling
* Faster

It looks like a "Faster sandwich" to me, ladies and gentlemen. And there's lots of tasty treats in the middle too. I'll give AS2 a half-point for using a bit fewer lines of code, but after 20,000 lines or so, who's counting?

The point is, you can't stay in AS2 forever, or you'll eventually be in the dust. In order to stay on top of the game, you should know not only what AS3 can offer, but what to expect in AS4. The only excuse for staying behind is "I don't want to learn it".

Now, who votes for FPA in AS3 (it rolls right off the tongue if you ask me)?

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Posted 3 years ago #
DrNeroCF
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But I don't wanna learn it.

But seriously, the way I have everything set up in World 2, I build the level inside of movie clips that are all inside one parent movie clip, then the game goes through that and builds levels from those clips, caching the foreground and background, and setting up all the movie clips as they're loaded. For things like jumppads, I do all the normalized code on the first frame (like renaming it them all in order) and anything that's unique to each jump pad, I use an onClipEvent(load) to set that variable (thrust, for instance).

Now, I hear that you can't use onClipEvents anymore, and I know that all my standardized functions that are set up as something is loaded is pretty much the same thing as using classes, but how would you load the variables like 'thrust' into different jumppads?

Sprite class? weaksauce, all my code that really matters is tied into the timing of the animations XD

20,000 lines of code? Damn! World 2 has under 3,000 on it's main frame, and maybe 1000 lines more scattered everywhere else.

What you programming, Photoshop Express? Heh.

For the record, good luck convincing me to use AS3, I think it took me 2 years to start using functions, haha.

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Posted 3 years ago #
Thefox
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AS3 is nice and all but it's too much of a hassle to learn right now. Especially since i'm learning AS from various flash developers (brad included). And all of those developers use AS2 mostly. So until those uys upgrade i don't see a need to do so myself for a while. I am with you on learning AS3 though, only for the reason of being able to do AS4 though (i hear you can interact with pearl etc...).

Posted 3 years ago #
motionsmith
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Putting clips inside of clips is how most people makes Flash games, I believe. Of course that can still be done in AS3.

It makes me cringe to hear the word onClipEvent(load), but there is, of course, an equivalent. It's called a class constructor, and it's really awesome. You would do this:
//xLoc, yLoc, and thrust are defined elsewhere var myJumpPad = new JumpPad(xLoc, yLoc, thrust);
I would be curious to count up how many lines CE has. It's probably around 2000 by now, but of course, I have to do XML parsing, and keep it as versatile as possible for the AIR editors.

I just enjoy your work, and I think you have a good eye for games. It would be shame for it to be 2020, you're in the middle of your career still trying to find a copy of Flash 7 for Windows Universe Edition while the world is enjoying Flash 15 (now with four dimensions!)

Have you tried to make an AS1 project in Flash CS3? The old languages do eventually get dropped. Besides, I don't expect to convince you...just to plant that seed .

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Posted 3 years ago #
Jimbo
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i have only used as2 - tried c++ (never again...) Lua (okay....)
and ummm yeah....

should i write something here? oh wait i am...thanks anyways

Posted 3 years ago #

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Brad does what works. I've heard him complain a lot about the lack of certain things in AS3, and heard him complain about Flash in general. Why compromise? Seriously, look at what happened to Final Fantasy as it "got with the times" *shudder*

and hey, if onClipEvent works, why not use it. To each his own.
and if its not broke, don't fit it.
(That's not a reference to AS2 not being broken, because apparently (with my limited knowledge) Flash Action Script is always broken)

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Posted 3 years ago #
Nyubis
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Oh, F***ing hell, i havent got AS3,

is there a way to get flash 8 or sumthing for free?
i feel n00bish with mx...

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Posted 3 years ago #
jesus_minime
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I havn't had the time really get into ACTAULLY programming anything other than simple "gotoAnd" scripts. Lately i've just been focusing on animating. Speaking of witch... does anybody know of any good as2 tutorials. (all the as3 scripts i've seen look a lot moe complicated) (:*)

Posted 2 years ago #
DaxterSpeed
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Have you tried to: search the forum?

Or have you even watched the date the last post was made. Your bump counts as an epic one.

We do got some amazing tutorials on this forum. So please abuse Google.

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Posted 2 years ago #
Nyubis
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Depends on what you want to make. I think I still got a simple tutorial lying around here somewhere...
*searches*
*reuploads*
http://www.truploader.com/view/710714

God, this looks bad now that I see it again...
The cursor is too slow and flashy, quite some colors are clashing, the bitmaps look bad etc...

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Posted 2 years ago #
jesus_minime
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thanks man, pretty simple tutorial so i knew most of the stuff but thanks anyway. i looked around a bunch yesterday and found few things i could use, but nothing long enough to actually be worth going through it all. i want to find something that can teach the context in which certan scripts can be used, what certain codes can do, and how to go about actually peicing togather what i learn to get what i want

Posted 2 years ago #
VideoGuy
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If you're just starting out with Flash Actionscript in general, you should really start with AS3, since you'll eventually have to make the switch anyway.

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Posted 2 years ago #
Nyubis
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I actually agree. If you have a version of Flash that supports AS3, that is.

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Posted 2 years ago #
jesus_minime
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Adobe Master Collection Cs3... yes i can run as3.

yeah, i guess i could just learn as3 right away instead...
"But I don't wanna learn it!"

Posted 2 years ago #
Nyubis
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You decide, but AS 2 tutorials/people who can teach it to you are getting sheerer...

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Posted 2 years ago #
WJUK
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It's probably better to learn AS3. Learning a language that has been super-seeded is never a good idea, as I have found out.

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Posted 2 years ago #
Nyubis
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What super-seeded language did you learn?

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Posted 2 years ago #
WJUK
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Well I learned VB6 in College. And even when I was learning it, VB.NET was out and people were using it. The following year, the college moved to VB.NET.

That being said, some people still stick to VB6 to code since they like it more. Although I know prefer Python over it. Just so much simpler although I miss the easy GUI-making with the IDE.

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Posted 2 years ago #
Nyubis
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I'm afraid this isn't the last time that will happen...

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Posted 2 years ago #
WJUK
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I know. To be honest we're learning Python 2.5/2.6 right now and 3.1 is the latest version.

:S

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